The first movie in the "Plandemic" series featured Dr. Judy Mikovits' claim that the pathogen behind the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) was made in a laboratory. The second film titled "Plandemic: Indoctornation" featured Dr. David Martin's expose of infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci funding gain-of-function research in China.
Willis was inspired to make the two films after seeing the beauty of the human spirit during 9/11. He was among those who helped recover bodies from the ruins of the World Trade Center, despite the announcement of possible respiratory risks that the rescuers face.
"The 2,000 men and women that were there [and] recovering bodies – nobody left. Everyone stayed there at the very slight chance that we'd find one stranger alive. It was a beautiful moment that really woke me up to who we are, beyond the veil of our personalities [and] beyond all the things that we've been wired to think are important. When we are really pushed to that point of caring, something amazing emerges in the human spirit," he said.
"But we've just been led so far astray, that we are worshiping so many material items and goals. There's nothing wrong with making money and being successful, but when that is our goal – we lose sight of what actually matters. In short, what matters is each other."
Show host Robert Scott Bell agreed but added that the government's idea of depopulation was stealthily weaved in during that period. He told Willis: "Unfortunately, the fear of what the government complex utilized at that moment really led to what we're experiencing today, and your production of 'Plandemic' – this idea that we must control the population of the Earth."
"We had waned on our fear of terrorism over [the period of] a year, so it wasn't working so much. We talked about planning something that would work, and I said our biggest vulnerability is not our fear of terror – but our fear of germs. They're going to use that against us eventually, and that is exactly what they've done to a tee."
The filmmaker concurred, saying: "It's been in the books and the manifestos and announced for decades and decades. They would use bio-warfare to divide and control the people and your rights."
The two also touched on the matter of pushing back against government tyranny.
Bell said: "I realized that defense of life is a warranted reason why we could push and fight. But what if we withdrew consent? What if we withdrew all of the energy that they are taking from us surreptitiously through fear-based suggestions, mandates, words like 'pandemic' or 'vaccines' and vaccine passports and stopped playing altogether? Wouldn't the emperor being butt-naked and ugly be obvious to more people, and then it would end?"
Willis agreed that it would definitely end. However, he pointed out that a vast majority of people are needed for it to happen. Government intimidation of several participants in the Jan. 6 Capitol riots made things more difficult, the filmmaker noted.
"Why would they hold these people who weren't really a threat as political prisoners? Because that is the intimidation tactic that our draconian government uses. That is the way to show everyone that 'We will take these kinds of measures if you stand up.' It scares everyone from stepping forward." (Related: Mao Lives: January 6 defendant required to confess her "sins" for leniency.)
Willis expressed optimism despite this. He told Bell: "I think we have to be very strategic and very wise about the way that we overcome this tyranny. We have to become much better at the way we communicate and strategize. We're approaching a time when it's more possible for us to [do so, but] I don't mean anything radical or violent."
The filmmaker behind "Plandemic" continued: "You have so many people hypnotized into this slumber, and so many people are still asleep. But as this thing spreads around our nation and people have a direct experience of it, it [will wake] them up like popcorn.
"More people [will] wake up and say 'Listen, it's gone too far. This is not OK any longer. We played the game with something that could potentially damage our health. We took that risk all in the name of our freedom, and you lied to us.' (Related: Dean Ryan: Stand up to the Biden administration's medical tyranny – Brighteon.TV.)
"I think pretty soon, we're going to have that mass movement of people that would just say: 'Look, I'm not going to complain anymore. We're not going to allow this to happen in our lives anymore.' That's when things will start to rapidly change."
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