The audio recording was obtained by the Daily Wire. It features comments Collins made in late October during an event at the University of Chicago. The event was organized by Russell Moore, a theologian for Christianity Today magazine, on behalf of David Axelrod, former senior adviser to President Barack Obama.
During the event, Collins told students that he is in favor of the tyrannical vaccine mandates. He believes the federal government has the authority to force people to take the experimental and dangerous vaccine.
"The U.S. government does have the authority to mandate vaccinations if there is an outbreak that is threatening people, because it's not just about you, it's about the people you're going to infect," said Collins. "There's no question in my mind that the mandates are legal."
Collins justified his belief by pointing to the 1905 Supreme Court case Jacobson v. Massachusetts, which upheld the authority of states to enforce vaccine mandates. This claim has already been debunked by legal scholars everywhere.
Sean Trende, journalist and political analyst for RealClearPolitics and legal scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, called the 1905 ruling "a footnote in most constitutional law treatises" that non-experts like Collins cite "whenever anyone questions the legality or constitutionality of vaccine mandates in response to the COVID-19 pandemic." (Related: Fauci, Walensky and Collins all conspired to commit mass murder with the pandemic: Dr. Naomi Wolf.)
Collins added that the mandates are the government's best tools to coerce people into getting vaccinated. "Do [vaccine mandates] convince people who otherwise wouldn't get them? Oh yeah, especially if it means losing your job."
The former NIH director talked about over 2,000 NIH employees who were forced to choose between keeping their jobs and getting vaccinated last year. Under this immense pressure, Collins remarked that even some "pretty darn hesitant" employees were coerced into taking the vaccine.
"You get the feeling that their resistance was not maybe quite that deeply seated," he said while laughing.
Collins even claimed without evidence that many people who do not want to get vaccinated may only be resisting because of peer pressure and secretly actually want to get vaccinated.
"They're sort of thinking to themselves, 'You know, maybe I really should do it, but if I do, I lose my credibility with my peeps,'" he claimed.
Collins added that the mandates were a way to give these people a chance to get vaccinated while also saving face. "They get, you know, bonus points because they're now a victim. But they've also gotten the mandated vaccine that they kind of wanted anyway."
Collins, a self-described evangelical Christian, used the meeting at the university to disparage other Christians. He said other evangelicals have so "wrapped themselves in the flag and wrapped themselves in this concept of personal freedom that public health just grates on them."
"[Evangelicals] have forgotten many times that freedom is not just about rights," said Collins.
He is then heard in the audio recording taking on a mocking Southern accent when he asked the students: "How many times have you heard, 'My freedom means I got rights?' Well, okay, you also have that other r-word: Responsibilities. That's what freedom is supposed to incorporate."
Collins continued his attacks on Christians by defending the NIH's research that uses genetic data from aborted children. He claimed that it is acceptable because abortion is legal in the United States.
"Whether you're in support of it or not, it's happened," he said. Collins added that the "discarded" material from abortions "can be extremely valuable" for certain kinds of research.
"Can you, in fact, in some circumstances, even with actions that you consider immoral, derive something from it that might actually be moral and beneficial?" he asked rhetorically. "That's the horns of the dilemma upon which I have been resting here for these 12 years as NIH director, trying to oversee human fetal tissue research, which is something that I have to make decisions about."
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