Joseph Carson: Government DOESN’T PROTECT whistleblowers
By Kevin Hughes // Feb 14, 2024

Whistleblower Joseph Carson has lamented that federal government agencies supposedly established to protect whistleblowers aren't doing their job.

He shared this sentiment during an appearance on "The Kim Iversen Show," accusing the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) and the Office of Special Counsel (OSC) of failing to protect whistleblowers like him. Carson, a nuclear safety engineer with the Department of Energy (DOE) for over 30 years, blew the whistle to expose the lawbreaking inside government agencies.

The DOE whistleblower shared that the Civil Service Reform Act (CSRA) of 1978 gave birth to the MSPB a year later. Congress passed the CSRA to try to protect federal agency employees from whistleblower reprisal and cronyism and other improper unlawful agency employment practices.

Legislators didn't want federal agencies to have their own system as they didn't trust these agencies to police themselves. As a result, Congress created the MSPB and OSC – with both entities having agency-wide jurisdiction. The OSC was tasked to protect federal employees from reprisal, while the MSPB was tasked to adjudicate claims of reprisal and make the overall report.

Iversen, a former radio newscaster, commented that department heads, the OSC and the MSPB are supposed to be protecting the employees talking about and exposing problems in their agency. But given Carson's revelation, she then asked her guest who these agencies are truly protecting if they aren't shielding the whistleblowers. (Related: ATF whistleblower exposes rampant FRAUD inside the agency.)

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Government lawyers are protecting federal agencies

In response, Carson revealed that government lawyers are protecting the agency that employs these whistleblowers – and by extension the federal government, which is their real client. These lawyers, he added, are going to do whatever they can to prevent their client from being found guilty of any fault.

Iversen agreed, comparing the two agencies to a human resources (HR) department in a big corporation that protects bosses at all costs because they bring in the money. She added that the two are just like most HR departments that supposedly protect the "little guys," but in reality are protecting the "big guys." In the case of the MSPB and OSC, they are literally defending the "big guns."

According to Carson, attorneys comprise the vast majority of employees in both the OSC and MSPB. To this extent, they will also protect their client, which is also their employer.

In contrast, he pointed out that professions in America are self-regulating. These professions exist to protect and advance the interest of their members. They also seek to advance the common good by promoting the trustworthy practices of a given profession.

Iversen stressed the need for whistleblowers to be protected, with a dedicated government agency for whistleblower protection. The refusal to protect whistleblowers impacts public health, safety and welfare, Carson added.

He also urged Americans to look at the government attorneys representing the federal agency against the whistleblower. One such attorney is Cathy Harris, acting chairman of the MSPB. Carson remarked that Harris and other government lawyers shouldn't be stonewalling a whistleblower disclosure in the name of "legal ethics."

He ultimately warned of "very catastrophic" consequences if federal whistleblowers are not adequately protected – a sentiment Iversen agreed with.

Watch the full conversation between Joseph Carson and Kim Iversen on "The Kim Iversen Show" below.

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